Comments on: Religion

By: Muralee

Muralee — Mon, 10 Apr 2006 03:52:09 +0000

Read your views on religion today, 10 April 2006 sitting in my home at Valamangalam.
The physical bodies are of the same constituents and individual minds are always linked to both the past and the future. To be, now, in the world net, an active participant in upholding whatever is good for the entire humanity is the challenge and the Religion of the world Tomorrow!
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By: santosh

santosh — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 09:07:08 +0000

hoo god..the above words are just the normal modern thoughts on religion which i tried to upoot in the essay i wrote.it indeed is hard for open neutral words to percolate in to minds once stuck into a seemingly logical loop.

By: Abranches

Abranches — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:35:09 +0000

Why do people turn to religion?

Why do people turn to religion? The human power of formal reasoning has an unavoidable limit. We can never be entirely sure of the logical basis of our conclusions; so we begin to recognize that there are unsolvable mysteries. And this feeling of being surrounded with mysteries, one cannot grasp, turns into indescribable awe. Fear of unknown make people turn to religion.

Fear of unknown is at the root of all religions; and all personal religious experiences have their root and center in mystical states of human consciousness. Like drugs, the religions too may produce a psychotropic influence on human mind; and stimulate the mystical faculties of human nature. Even so, religions do bring a sense of inner happiness, though short-lived, in a state of false inner tranquility and balance; but over passionate pursuance may produce mild euphoria, cause hallucination; and even alter perception and thinking pattern.

Almost all religions are designed to bring about a packaged peace of mind. These turnkey packages come in complete with ready for use set of strongly held beliefs, values, and attitudes to live by. But do they really get you conditioned to deep solutions?

All religions aim to give comfort and moral instruction for life on Earth, and to inspire hope for life after death. The religion should rather counsel contemplation and endurance; shape common sense and awaken the believers because hope is but the dream of those that wake.

The religions have few things to hope for and many things to fear. One among them is the fear of hell. Fear of hell alarms the believers successively to the point that they dose themselves heavily by every specific remedy the religions offers. The consequence is that the fears, which had first been imaginary, become real and in the state of living, they become more dead than alive.

By: santosh.G

santosh.G — Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:02:17 +0000

“So when I read the above paragraph , I really wonder myself THE FINAL DESTINATION , THE ULTIMATE GOAL !!!! can you please tell me today�s man�s ultimate goal? What is their destination? Our discussion at Hydrabad comes to my mind. Hope you may can give a better answer through this ………”
mm…Exactly speaking sanija, This final destination is unknown.We are guided by our intuition ,our feeling, and rationale towards our own very essence, somehow it turns to be a quest into the source of happiness,abiding peace and tranquillity,.We still feel vaguely, an urge towards a pursuit of higher meaning of life.

can you tell what exactly the civilization mean ?_i see it as the collective living standard of humanbeings.
“I really don�t agree with this Santoah , I think A research into OUR OWNAS WELL AS THE SURRONDING LIVES , and the thoughts comes followed by that can reveal A LOT OF FACTS , which is more understandable and applicable .”..Both are equally true sanija,Man is the same beast at any time frame…the eqations change not much.
The life of the primitive man was raw experimentation.it is the exciting jungle life.modern man has a settled base.both are so real and smell human.
“But I feel those concepts are something which should originate from mind . (Never matter how they call that). None of the books can teach this to man (who does not have that concept) other than LIFE. But unfortunately many of them wont understand even form life.”…100 percent right.May these words be written for ever in golden letters.

“For me � HUMAN BEING� is beyond religion.”
mmmm…. Rather, Religion implies the very life of a human being as a true human beings,to fully live out his feelings,his thoughts,his passions,to live every moment to its full extent, being true to oneself-not as a hypocrite.
though modern religious groups do the opposite.

“could never see any point of seeing a man through the religious point of view” .-true,never to see a man through his point of views-all are equal and free.
” as you said there were great philosophers , scientists, rich , poor , �� DIFFERENT kind of people, and there are& will be . But all have birth , life, death. No matter who he was / is , how he lived . “-Yes, it imples only to oneself the onus to decide whether one’s life was worth its living.its definition and rating, he himself has the right to do.

By: Sanija George

Sanija George — Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:03:24 +0000

As Santosh ahd told me , I went through this site , but concentrated only on this part . And I would like to give a comment only where I felt its required. And also Santhosh ,I�m more happy to give the comment by visualizing the present , what I see around me.
It is all about how man tried to perceive the universe. It is more about his quest about his own roots, the origin, cause and purpose of his own existence, the final destination and the ultimate goal (if such a thing exists) of this very thing called life.
So when I read the above paragraph , I really wonder myself THE FINAL DESTINATION , THE ULTIMATE GOAL !!!! can you please tell me today�s man�s ultimate goal? What is their destination? Our discussion at Hydrabad comes to my mind. Hope you may can give a better answer through this .
This quest, a direct resultant of man�s curiosity and intellectual thirst has persisted in him right from the time civilization was born.
can you tell what exactly the civilization mean ?
Thus as he was learning to make wheel, making wheel?
he was also laying down the fundamental principles of philosophy. Phylosophy?
This is where, da praveen, I am seeing the first grains of what is called Religion- A term, as I see it, unalloyed, free from the dust and debris, the modern definition of the term carries with it- here let us see Man�s genuine quest for the ultimate truth of being.
A research into the life and thoughts of earlier Indian society will reveal a lot of facts.
I really don�t agree with this Santoah , I think A research into OUR OWNAS WELL AS THE SURRONDING LIVES , and the thoughts comes followed by that can reveal A LOT OF FACTS , which is more understandable and applicable .
Contemplation, argumentation and discussions were tools of establishing the principles.
And still this is the strongest tools , the difference I could find is the way of doing , as the technology has improved .
Sanscrit language with all its grammatical superiority & structural strength was a great contribution of this age. This became the medium of sankhyam, tharkam, meemamsa – all these well-structured and scientific tools of logic and reasoning and logistics towards the ultimate human goal. All these thoughts and deductions were put to experimentation and the ardent followers had come up with their results followed by detailed analysis and validations.( I don�t have much knowledge about it )
Any development in sciences will always lay down newer and newer building bricks( STRONG AS WELL AS WEAK ) in the social construction..
. The concept of bhakti and dharma
For me the above mentioned concept is beyond religion, place, culture, etc. as you know I�ve never read any of other religious books except BIBLE ( very few part). But I feel those concepts are something which should originate from mind . (Never matter how they call that). None of the books can teach this to man (who does not have that concept) other than LIFE. But unfortunately many of them wont understand even form life.
Common man �saw� God, philosophers discussed God, Vedantis pursued God and the ones like Buddha perceived God� All were free� to go the way they like. And they did go. Their experiences did make their marks in the building bricks of the society. Some or most in the form of cults.
Yet the wheels did run and the pursuit went on and on. Still going on, WHY?
Down the masses many-where, values were getting degenerated. This always happens in the society. Many practices became mere rituals and distorted concepts crept in when arrogance and base instincts in man took the upper hand. The caste atrocities as such are the best examples. Yet there was a force� a force in the works of the ancient Man that bound them together into a common civilization which, seen in total is simply glorious.
And this life� it is this life of freedom, honest and sincere pursuit towards truth, the readiness to put one�s own thoughts to test before facts, readiness to accept the new, on being convinced, and the strength to pursue what you are convinced about, against all odds, this life of strength. This is, for me, the essence of religion. This is my religion. This is the one that existed in India and remains still eternal. They call it Hindu religion. The word could remain or not, it is just a label. Still, if you choose it, by name, then this what I have described above is my definition of Hinduism.
Da, here each man lives his own religion. He thinks. He experiments, he proceeds. Religion for one lies in ones own instincts� in one�s own heart. When he surrenders this to the one self who he considers the higher self, The Guru, who shall instruct him further, he becomes the sishya. Some walk their own way, still they walk, and that is the point. That is the strength. That is religion.
This force is natural. It is there in every man. It knows no geographic or cultural boundaries. In fact it is an act of going beyond boundaries. And this force, this is the only common bond in all these pursuits. And this goes by definition of the term� Religion. Eda� that is it. The very word religion can be given only this one meaning. And thus it exists in its core in every man, and is beyond all labels. And it is this force that comes out as religion of every man.
Thus in truth Religion is universally one, da. This is the concept of secularism. And this is the concept of religion too. Both are exactly one and the same. Though both are in today�s language misnomers.
For me � HUMAN BEING� is beyond religion. I could never see any point of seeing a man through the religious point of view . as you said there were great philosophers , scientists, rich , poor , �� DIFFERENT kind of people, and there are& will be . But all have birth , life, death. No matter who he was / is , how he lived .

By: akhmed khan

akhmed khan — Mon, 30 May 2005 11:16:00 +0000

Dears Mad manji and yajidji,

Idol is just a symbol, of the characteristics you want to see in a particular god. It is not necessary to worship idols to find eternal peace and happiness. If one can recite AUM or Gayatri mantra or any other prayer, it’ll be as good.
Of course BLIND idol worship is bad. People do so because they have forgotten the reason behind making of idols. Now they just do it as a ritual.
Actually idol worship is scientific, provided the idol is made of “PANCHDHATU”. The alloy has strong effect on collecting Psychotropic energy. More details on http://www.indpride.com